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	<title>Prometheus Fusion Perfection &#187; coils</title>
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		<title>Discrepancy Between Circuit Simulation and Reality</title>
		<link>http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/09/29/discrepancy-between-circuit-simulation-and-reality/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Previously we modeled the polywell coils and power supply in SPICE. Today I returned to that model. All resistance values in the simulation are based on real world measurements with the exception of coil inductance (code). Starting with an estimate for coil inductance of 0.1 mH the discharge current looks like this: The simulation&#8217;s peak [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=3076&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Previously we <a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/09/02/circuit-modeling-with-spice/" target="_blank">modeled the polywell coils and power supply in SPICE</a>.</p>
<p>Today I returned to that model.</p>
<p>All resistance values in the simulation are based on real world measurements with the exception of coil inductance (<a href="https://gist.github.com/1252253/c12b18a55c4bfe370d0f9e54f07f7ce15a75c6f4" target="_blank">code</a>).</p>
<p>Starting with an estimate for coil inductance of 0.1 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit)" target="_blank">mH</a> the discharge current looks like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/discharge_current_graph2.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3080" title="discharge_current_graph" src="http://prometheusfusionperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/discharge_current_graph2.png?w=510" alt=""   /></a></p>
<p>The simulation&#8217;s peak of 1.5 kA is nowhere near the <a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/09/06/2-36-kiloamps/" target="_blank">2.3 kA we are getting in the real world</a>:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="2.3kA" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WU4Dd68Y9u8/TmZw7O-c8hI/AAAAAAAANgk/i1vodeW0HCI/s640/IMG_1853.JPG" alt="" width="576" height="432" /></p>
<p>OK. Maybe the value for coil inductance is off?</p>
<p>I played around with the value for coil inductance but the simulation would not match reality.</p>
<p>As a control I replaced the simulated inductor with a 1 mΩ resistor (<a href="https://gist.github.com/1252253/5cd2729999e969f7889d6f451dac93157caf749e" target="_blank">code</a>). Looks like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/discharge_current_graph_no_inductance.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3079" title="discharge_current_graph_no_inductance" src="http://prometheusfusionperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/discharge_current_graph_no_inductance.png?w=510" alt=""   /></a></p>
<p>The simulation predicts ~1.8 kA but in reality we see 2.3kA!</p>
<p>Where does this discrepancy come from?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: Reader Andrew solved the mystery:</p>
<blockquote><p>You could try changing the ON resistance of your switch/SCR to something a bit lower than 100mOhms</p>
<p>.model MySwitch SW(Ron=.1 Roff=1Meg Vt=3 Vh=0)</p>
<p>I can’t see the part number of your SCR but 2mOhms would seem reasonable.</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t notice that rather high resistance lurking in the SCR model.</p>
<p>Now the simulation matches reality very closely with 0.06mH coil inductance (<a href="https://gist.github.com/1252253/adf19164053c363af470c308021e7af90b0b21dc" target="_blank">code</a>):</p>
<p><a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/discharge_current_graph_corrected.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3087" title="discharge_current_graph_corrected" src="http://prometheusfusionperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/discharge_current_graph_corrected.png?w=510" alt=""   /></a></p>
<p>Good work Andrew and the rest of the internet brain!</p>
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		<title>Coil Power Supply Upgrade</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All photos. I completed some nice upgrades to the coils power supply for safety and quality. I added DIN rail terminal blocks and rearranged the parts to emphasize discharge path: Added an internal variac: Added terminal blocks to the trigger board: These pins on the SCR never soldered well because they are mini-fastons. Fixed: For [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=3070&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/102602129941374127392/20110922" target="_blank">All photos</a>.</p>
<p>I completed some nice upgrades to the coils power supply for safety and quality.</p>
<p>I added DIN rail terminal blocks and rearranged the parts to emphasize discharge path:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="coil power supply" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nP-JUBG6ytM/TnpjTH_EBnI/AAAAAAAANuk/fQRpnG6axW0/s640/IMG_1958.JPG" alt="" width="480" height="640" /></p>
<p>Added an internal <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variac#Variable_autotransformers" target="_blank">variac</a>:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="added internal variac" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PISjVH4BgO8/TnkZ5vCOS5I/AAAAAAAANt4/WNZSQVa5UKI/s400/IMG_1955.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Added terminal blocks to the trigger board:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="terminal blocks added" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ilitfKryE3M/TnkxxLs9jRI/AAAAAAAANuA/B85L0IgvNIE/s400/IMG_1956.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>These pins on the SCR never soldered well because they are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faston#Blade_connector" target="_blank">mini-fastons</a>. Fixed:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="mini fastons" src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o-awwSDxZWQ/Tnt1yYqAVFI/AAAAAAAANvQ/csZ_cQeud9Q/s400/IMG_1963.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>For safety, I added an AC switch:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="AC rocker switch" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TxmkoQsWnbI/TnuL2Q7uzaI/AAAAAAAANvY/a_I1G6JNrkY/s400/IMG_1964.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>I replaced the trigger&#8217;s battery with a 9V <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_wart" target="_blank">wall wart</a>:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="wall wart for 9V power" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0ZPp3Qinjeo/ToH5bct1vbI/AAAAAAAANy0/lT5PTFM19f8/s400/IMG_1985.JPG" alt="" width="300" height="400" /></p>
<p>And added a DIN rail 0.5 A circuit breaker:</p>
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		<title>Welding 3D Printed Steel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All photos. My shopmate had a TIG welder here the other day. I took the opportunity to try welding the 3D printed metal parts I made last year: These are intended to be coil holders, so I installed a 40 turn coil prior to welding. Mike welding the halves together: We used no filler rod [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=3061&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>My shopmate had a TIG welder here the other day.</p>
<p>I took the opportunity to try welding the <a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2009/02/20/manifest/" target="_blank">3D printed metal parts I made last year:</a></p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="3d printed parts" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sPVtY_uAZ0A/Tm_pKzfUafI/AAAAAAAANmY/uSbE7H4-3F4/s400/IMG_1898.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>These are intended to be coil holders, so I installed a 40 turn coil prior to welding.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="coil holder" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6Jm4JevVUxg/Tm_2yB842RI/AAAAAAAANmg/7we9NsDWM4k/s400/IMG_1899.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Mike welding the halves together:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="welding the coil holders" src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k7x4FwgYHM4/Tm_3pKiRJqI/AAAAAAAANms/-X6zKWhsdbE/s400/IMG_1902.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>We used no filler rod on the theory that the infused bronze would melt and form a braze of sorts.</p>
<p>It worked very well:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="welded coil holder" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F1y1sAavhmE/Tm_5n77Y4BI/AAAAAAAANnk/QdLarF54gok/s640/IMG_1908.JPG" alt="" width="448" height="336" /></p>
<p>The coil insulation didn&#8217;t survive: The coil is conductive to the casing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m encouraged by the weldability. I am ordering more test parts to keep pushing this approach.</p>
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		<title>2.36 KiloAmps</title>
		<link>http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/09/06/2-36-kiloamps/</link>
		<comments>http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/09/06/2-36-kiloamps/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[coils]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[polywell]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[All photos. Today I tested the newly rewound polywell coils and thicker leads. Best shot was 2.36 kA. Now we are in the right neighborhood.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=3035&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Today I tested the newly rewound polywell coils and thicker leads. Best shot was 2.36 kA.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="2.36 kA test shot" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WU4Dd68Y9u8/TmZw7O-c8hI/AAAAAAAANgk/i1vodeW0HCI/s640/IMG_1853.JPG" alt="" width="576" height="432" /></p>
<p>Now we are in the right neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>Terrifying Power</title>
		<link>http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/09/04/terrifying-power/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[coils]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[All photos. Tonight I really experienced the power of the coil power supply. Whoa. I&#8217;ve been working to increase the coil current from ~1.2kA to ~2.5kA. Previously I discovered the coil discharge path had more DC resistance than expected. I rewound the Polywell coils with 16 gauge wire (previously 18 gauge). The 16 gauge DC resistance [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=3027&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Tonight I really experienced the power of the coil power supply. Whoa.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="coil power supply" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qhkXvmPjcSo/TmQqRaOGhrI/AAAAAAAANeY/xd6YqBLLQ_c/s400/IMG_1842.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working to increase the coil current from ~1.2kA to ~2.5kA.</p>
<p>Previously I discovered the coil discharge path had <a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/08/26/wire-resistance/" target="_blank">more DC resistance than expected</a>.</p>
<p>I rewound the Polywell coils with 16 gauge wire (previously 18 gauge).</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="16 gauge polywell" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uhA5LYPXleU/TmQSY9F2KZI/AAAAAAAANc4/YRuGij__0JM/s640/IMG_1826.JPG" alt="" width="640" height="480" /></p>
<p>The 16 gauge DC resistance is 144 mΩ compared to 227 mΩ for 18 gauge wire.</p>
<p>I beefed up other wires on the coil discharge path (4 gauge):</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="thick wires" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6d_gCuAkrOE/TmQdOO7tNOI/AAAAAAAANdY/S62_coNqdhk/s400/IMG_1830.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="2 gauge wire" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T6cGjFAN8cg/TmQtYSVB51I/AAAAAAAANe0/YSZ_bM2mpZ8/s400/IMG_1843.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Lets test the wiring with the dummy coil:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="dummy coil" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BW2Th4Z99UU/TmQveaue2pI/AAAAAAAANe8/AxK96xyvPVA/s640/IMG_1832.JPG" alt="" width="512" height="410" /></p>
<p>I took the power supply up to 100V&#8230; a small test charge&#8230;</p>
<p>When I fired, the noise from the coil made me flinch. It was never that loud before.</p>
<p>Lets turn up the power!</p>
<p>300V for second test.</p>
<p>When I fired the coil there was lightning! HOLY CRAP.  Look what happened:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="whoa" src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-66T7LjGX8kg/TmQiaU1zAwI/AAAAAAAANfE/fAx7MTxBrj0/s640/IMG_1833.JPG" alt="" width="640" height="480" /></p>
<p>The coil fucking wrapped itself around the transformer (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_forming" target="_blank">electromagnetic forming</a>). Then it discharged to ground:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="discharge" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VPna-VXxp-8/TmQjoqxzVzI/AAAAAAAANeI/pxRYgKgAGnA/s400/IMG_1839.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>So I haven&#8217;t measured it yet, but I think we are getting more current to the coils.</p>
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		<title>Coil Inductance</title>
		<link>http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/08/27/coil-inductance/</link>
		<comments>http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/08/27/coil-inductance/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[coils]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Electrical Engineering]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s take a look at the coil inductance. A fun and easy place to start is look at some AC going through the coil (suggested in comments). I used the oscilloscope&#8217;s test wave generator. I&#8217;m using two 10:1 probes connected thusly: Channel 1 is shown above channel 2 on these oscilloscope screens: Not much distortion [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=3004&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s take a look at the coil inductance.</p>
<p>A fun and easy place to start is look at some AC going through the coil (suggested in comments).</p>
<p>I used the oscilloscope&#8217;s test wave generator. I&#8217;m using two 10:1 probes connected thusly:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="test setup" src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AejIaB7OGsE/TlqK5KXm0LI/AAAAAAAANO4/f2tIGV-Hxpk/s400/IMG_1716.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Channel 1 is shown above channel 2 on these oscilloscope screens:</p>
<p>Not much distortion at  500Hz:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="waveform" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L1KxuxQ_BEE/Tlk81PzKmcI/AAAAAAAANOE/Fyhj5dNqfC4/s400/IMG_1714.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>At 50kHz we start to see some distortion:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="waveform" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bp2zdz1ABOg/Tlk8yTn_rhI/AAAAAAAANOA/i2S2KOIDiwU/s400/IMG_1713.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>At 500kHz we have obvious distortion:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="waveform" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-miRdhAUmlHQ/Tlk87IsEhbI/AAAAAAAANOI/QSHCSdAIEqk/s400/IMG_1715.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Not sure what this tells us, but I&#8217;m sure it tell us something!</p>
<p>Now lets try a more abstract approach to the problem. We have a 6cm diameter <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_core#Air_core" target="_blank">air core</a> coil with 60 turns. I found this handy <a href="http://www.technick.net/public/code/cp_dpage.php?aiocp_dp=util_inductance_circle" target="_blank">inductance calculator</a>. I looked up the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge#Table_of_AWG_wire_sizes" target="_blank">thickness of 18 AWG wire</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_(electromagnetism)#Values_for_some_common_materials" target="_blank">relative permeability of air</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/inductance_calcs.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3006" title="inductance_calcs" src="http://prometheusfusionperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/inductance_calcs.png?w=510&#038;h=168" alt="" width="510" height="168" /></a></p>
<p>Theoretically the coil has 0.56mH of inductance. Sound right?<br />
Given <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductance" target="_blank">inductance</a> and frequency, you can calculate <span style="color:#0000ee;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedence" target="_blank">impedance</a></span>&#8230;which is what we&#8217;re after. But what&#8217;s the frequency of a single pulse?</p>
<p>UPDATE: The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectangular_function" target="_blank">rectangular function</a> may be useful for calculating frequency.</p>
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		<title>Wire Resistance</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All photos. To reach 2.5kA with a 450V power supply, the coil cannot exceed 180mΩ. I removed the Polywell from the chamber to measure resistance of the coil alone. The coil contributes 227mΩ. Our 6cm diameter Polywell uses 11.31 meters of 18 AWG wire. Based on wire resistance charts, 16 AWG wire would contribute 149mΩ. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=2994&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>To reach 2.5kA with a 450V power supply, the coil cannot exceed 180mΩ.</p>
<p>I removed the Polywell from the chamber to measure resistance of the coil alone.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="polywell" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Sg8pGHqHUl4/Tlff4AF7-mI/AAAAAAAANKk/xPQsw9hBrJk/s400/IMG_1682.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>The coil contributes 227mΩ.</p>
<p>Our 6cm diameter Polywell uses 11.31 meters of 18 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge" target="_blank">AWG wire</a>.</p>
<p>Based on <a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/wirega.html" target="_blank">wire resistance charts</a>, 16 AWG wire would contribute 149mΩ.</p>
<p>One pin of small feedthrough: 33mΩ:</p>
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<p>The bellows feedthrough has a tiny 1mΩ. I should use this for the coils (currently used for langmuire probe):</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="bellows feedthrough" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oodW4KHSv9M/TlgDvWNy0uI/AAAAAAAANK0/D9JkgTlOvMU/s400/IMG_1684.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>One leg of the power supply cable with connectors: 39mΩ. This can be improved with a shorter thicker cable.</p>
<p>I ordered 16 AWG magnet wire.</p>
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		<title>DIY Milliohm Meter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I asked Joe Khachan this question: Did you go to great lengths to reduce the resistance of the coil path? He responded: Yes we try and use a thick enough wire so that the resistance is small but it cannot be too thick in order to be able to have many turns. More importantly is the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=2990&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked Joe Khachan this question:</p>
<blockquote><p>Did you go to great lengths to reduce the resistance of the coil path?</p></blockquote>
<p>He responded:</p>
<blockquote><p>Yes we try and use a thick enough wire so that the resistance is small but it cannot be too thick in order to be able to have many turns. More importantly is the contact resistance when connecting to the wires. We try to keep this low. From this perspective, a milliOhm meter is helpful.</p></blockquote>
<p>Milliohm meters start around $200 on ebay. Too much.</p>
<p>Then I found this excellent tutorial on <a href="http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_8/9.html" target="_blank">Kelvin (4-wire) resistance measurement</a>.</p>
<p>Luckily I had a current sensing resistor on hand for the current reading:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="current sense" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FCwz-E_5XJc/TlbF11YNrMI/AAAAAAAANJc/YFa2dTrc6M4/s640/IMG_1673.JPG" alt="" width="640" height="480" /></p>
<p>I used the resistor on the right.</p>
<p>So current sense resistor plus two voltmeters and BINGO: milliohm meter. Results:</p>
<p>The coil path is 0.35Ω.</p>
<p>The dummy coil is 0.185Ω</p>
<p>As a calibration I tested the 0.001Ω resistor. Result: 0.00088888</p>
<p>Not bad.</p>
<p>Now I have excellent tool to troubleshoot resistance in the coil path. AWESOME.</p>
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		<title>Getting Current to the Coils</title>
		<link>http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/08/24/getting-current-to-the-coils/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All photos. I am currently repeating an experiment performed by Joe Khachan and Matthew Carr in Sydney, Australia. Their experiment is written up here:  &#8221;The dependence of the virtual cathode in a PolywellTM on the coil current and background gas pressure&#8221; ($1.99 pay wall) Joe and Matt were able to delivery 2.5kA to the coil:  The coils were [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=2972&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/102602129941374127392/20110824" target="_blank">All photos</a>.</p>
<p>I am currently repeating an experiment performed by Joe Khachan and Matthew Carr in Sydney, Australia.</p>
<p>Their experiment is written up here:  &#8221;<a href="http://pop.aip.org/resource/1/phpaen/v17/i5/p052510_s1?isAuthorized=no" target="_blank">The dependence of the virtual cathode in a PolywellTM on the coil current and background gas pressure</a>&#8221; ($1.99 pay wall)</p>
<p>Joe and Matt were able to delivery 2.5kA to the coil:</p>
<blockquote><p> The coils were driven by a pulsed current power supply that consisted of a 7.5 mF capacitor bank, which could be charged to a maximum voltage of 450 V&#8230;.A maximum peak current of 2.5 kA was achieved.</p></blockquote>
<p>We are seeing an effective resistance of ~0.45Ω compared to their 0.18Ω.</p>
<p>We need to lower the resistance and increase the voltage.</p>
<p>I started with raising the voltage. I rewired the coil power supply to use 2 capacitors in series: 0.3mF, 900V</p>
<p>The power supply&#8217;s transformer and rectifier only go to 600V (but I pushed them to 800V without issue)</p>
<p>With 800V we get 1300A. More current, but effective resistance increases to 0.61Ω.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="800V" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lAraEok0oiU/TlVYRHJS-dI/AAAAAAAANHE/N35iBXogH3w/s400/IMG_1663.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>OK fine. Lets try lowering the resistance with a dummy coil directly connected to the power supply. 45 turns 6cm diameter. The Polywell coil is same size but 15 more turns.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="dummy coil" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G-1PcYk9MUc/TlVc3mQCD7I/AAAAAAAANH8/1V1bDdAwQJY/s640/IMG_1664.JPG" alt="" width="480" height="640" /></p>
<p>Here it is connected:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="coil installed" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3hvBBN_Kz6Q/TlVhCAZod6I/AAAAAAAANHc/gXFjodCZ1bg/s640/IMG_1665.JPG" alt="" width="640" height="480" /></p>
<p>Now we are clearing 2.5kA with 600V!  But look at the strange pulse shape. Hmm.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="2.5kA" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lJZ3f2myB-U/TlVixMQVrXI/AAAAAAAANHo/zhBJU5LCPqs/s400/IMG_1667.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>I thought having the coil so close to the power supply might be a confounding factor. I added 1M of 12 gauge stranded wire to distance the coil:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="distance" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4jpIjTIPR_4/TlVkG9XZ-II/AAAAAAAANHw/pjm8YIw7V0M/s400/IMG_1668.JPG" alt="" width="300" height="400" /></p>
<p>Revealingly, just adding that 1 meter of wire reduced the current by almost half for same 600V:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="half current" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VxBfK539Xx8/TlVmMEwQPwI/AAAAAAAANIY/qJ3rcvaUXeM/s640/IMG_1670.JPG" alt="" width="640" height="480" /></p>
<p>So clearly delivering current will be a design challenge.</p>
<p>A note on technique. Based on comments I now ensure probes are perpendicular  to current:</p>
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		<title>Coil Power Supply: Current Measurements</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Suppes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All photos. Today I took a step back and measured the current going through the coils. Previously I measured 1,200 amps going through the coils with the capacitors charged to 450V. My setup is a little different now: There are 2 meters of cabling + feedthrough between the coils and their power supply. For all of these [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=prometheusfusionperfection.com&amp;blog=5230661&amp;post=2961&amp;subd=prometheusfusionperfection&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Today I took a step back and measured the current going through the coils.</p>
<p><a href="http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2011/02/19/1200-amps/" target="_blank">Previously I measured 1,200 amps</a> going through the coils with the capacitors charged to 450V.</p>
<p>My setup is a little different now: There are 2 meters of cabling + feedthrough between the coils and their power supply.</p>
<p>For all of these shots, the capacitors were charged to 450V. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunt_(electrical)#Use_in_current_measuring" target="_blank">shunt resistor</a> shows 100mV across for 100A through. Multiply the voltage by 1000 to get the current in amps.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="shunt resistor" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-evyTz1aAZfk/TlLGq18wRRI/AAAAAAAANEs/fy3a5mSr74A/s400/IMG_1650.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Surprisingly I&#8217;m seeing significant variation of current for identical conditions.</p>
<p>The most current I saw was 1,095 amps:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="1000 amps" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l12FIhyCjGE/TlKW6czEWYI/AAAAAAAANAU/vSKCa_Dv7ok/s400/IMG_1639.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>But with the same conditions I saw this much lower 344 amp current:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="low current" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xE8QmtMJE7c/TlKmQJzrpFI/AAAAAAAANDU/xdH0cONOQ7Q/s400/IMG_1647.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>The median current reading was around 734 amps:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="median" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-okpLiiKhqyI/TlKnPhXPl5I/AAAAAAAANDc/C9iJQRyBAYA/s400/IMG_1648.JPG" alt="" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Disconnected, the coil shows 0.8 ohm of resistance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m rather surprised by this variation. What could be the cause?</p>
<p>I tried some other conditions.</p>
<p>With the capacitors charged to 200V, I got 560 amps of current:</p>
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<p>I also tried charging 5 out of 10 capacitors to 450V. With an average current of 500 amps.</p>
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